How we're going to assemble our 2010 World Cup team, and how we're going to raise funds to send the team as well

[Julien Beaumier-Ethier]

Hello everyone,

I'm sorry for being late with this. I've been working hard recently and I kind of forgot the deadline.

Anyway, I've been thinking a lot about the World Cup team selection, and I have talked about it with some good players from Canada, to discuss with them about having a selection process that would give us the best team possible.

First of all, I agree with you that having a qualification to select our national champions for the next ITSF World Championship would be very difficult because of Canada's superficy. However, I'm one of those who think that a qualification tournament, or a series of qualification tournaments is the only way to select the best players in Canada while keeping the selection process the most fair possible to all canadian players. Unfortunately, I did not have time to think about a specific way to earn money for the team but I guess sponsorship could help us (in Quebec, there's already compagnies who sponsor A.Q.B.B. tournament like BlackKnight, Red Bull etc.). Also, according to the 2006 world cup website http://www.tischfussball-wm-2006.de/eng_infos.html , the 10 team members get their place tickets and accomodations paid so it's going to help us.

Now, I'm gonna expose what is my idea about how we should select our team. I'm not going to go deeply in the formalities, because I wanted to start an open discussion about my idea.

Basically, there are two scenarios possible (don't forget we have to select 6 men, 2 women, and 2 extra players (1 man and 1 women):

1-
Having a 1 week-end qualification tournament in a specific place in Canada. This week-end would be separated in two different qualfication tournaments. On the first day, we would run two round-robin tournaments (one for the men, one for the women) on Canada's home table. I'm just throwing an arbitrary number, but at the end of this day, we could select the top 10 men and the top 4 women, based on the final ranking. This first draft would give us the strongest players of Canada on our home table, which is very important in a multitable tournament. Also, this first qualification would give a chance to the best players in Canada to have a so-so tournament, and probably have a chance to truly qualify the day after.

On the second day, we could run a second qualfication tournament, with the same round robin format, with only the top 10 men and the top 4 women of the last day. But this time, this second qualification would be multitable (on Tornado, Bonzini and Garlando World Championship model so we respect the multitable aspect of Canada). At this point, the top 7 men and the top 3 women would be the one who would represent our country.

2-
Instead of having only a one week-end qualfiication tournament at one specific place in Canada, we could run a pre qualification tournament in East and in West, on the Canada's home table. This way, it could dispense to too many players of having to travel to the final qualification. Then, the best players of East and West would have to finally compete in the one week-end qualification tournament as explained earlier.


I know it's gonna be expensive for some to travel to a qualification tournament, but I don't think we have another choice to make it fair to everyone and to have the best team possible. We don't really have choice to set up a battle between the players from East and West to find who are the best players to represent us. Plus, this selection process would give us a really good feel of who are the best players on Canada's home table while being the best players when we speak about quick adaptation on different kind of tables, which is definitely important in a multitable tournament.

Feel free to post your thoughts.

[Eric Dunn]

due to this announcement --> http://tablesoccerca.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=1985405%3ATopic%3...

this topic should carry over to that thread.

[derce]

hum i think this is my first post here, so hi every1. I'm a new generation fooser, been playing for 5 years so I'm really interested in the game-sport, but I just am not as aware as you guys are about all details in world competitions. So thats why i don't post much, because i don't know much! But i read a lot and try to get as much information as possible. So cut the bullshit here are my questions:

I hear people talking about world cup south africa 2010, but now people are more talking about Italy, and from that announcement, we're now talking about world cup 2009 Nantes, France. Can anybody explain to me what are all those places and events taking place in there or if there was any mistakes...

secondly, i want to know why people look so optimistic about the warrior table. They think it will be recognized or official by ITSF in the near future or by 2010... But aren't there already 2 recognized tables that were there first: Rosengart and Leonhart, wouldn't they normally turn official before warrior did? Is the warrior priviliged or anything???
Just wanted to bring that into attention.

anyways keep discussing about all these interesting subjects, cuz the more we talk about it the more we take the right decision.

I'd finally like to drag your attention to our MTSA group, the montreal table soccer association. We have some updates :D

[Alex Goldberg]

I hope this conversation isnt dead yet heh
I think you have to have tournaments to decide who joins the world cup team, regardless of where the tournaments are scheduled at
it'll bring players together, to try new tables, and play against new competition
we should do yearly qualifyers, and arrange a points system solely for the world cup based on number of tournaments played and rankings from those specific multi table tournaments
being yearly, there's more time to prep each tournament, while giving players a decent shot at making at least one or two of the tournaments and seeing how well they do
if money is an advantage to certain players, you can limit the number of tournaments per year that players can play in, in order to make it fair, and somehow average out the overall result of that player in all of his/her tourneys
it may not work this year, but it could be applied in further years, and would save everyone the trouble of arranging this last minute
a committee definitely won't work, as there's favoritism with each pick, regardless
it also doesn't account for world class players that don't have reputations among said committee
that being said, i think this year a committee would be the best thing because of the immediacy to pick members to the team
it's impossible to come up with a series of tournaments on such short notice in order to fairly draw the players
and a properly chosen committee would hopefully avoid the pitfalls of the last world cup

[Alex Goldberg]

whoops im super late hehe
i didn't even read the forum annoucements before i posted this
sorry!